Moose Jaw Forum

I wonder if this is common with new buildings?

All depends on who is overseeing the project. If you’re the owner and you are overseeing it, things get taken care of before they become a problem. If you contract out this position to oversee the project, they can milk the extra hours till the cows come home, padding their pocket book big time with all the extra hours. Unless of course your smart and write up a contract that makes the deficiencies this contracted individual’s responsibility.

"Design Build" rather than the proper Tendering and Contract methodology; just another example with this "dog and pony show" of how NOT TO DO a project like this!! Thanks to our Fab-5 elected leaders - nothing but a fiscal joke!!

Look at the lighting and the seating in the curling rink. How is that any different from the Hillcrest?

If they wanted to host the big tournaments, they should have built this:



If they wanted to "go green" and design a new, energy efficient building, with energy efficient lighting/heating and no humidity problems, they should have followed the Campbell River Curling Club:

http://www.bchydro.com/powersmart/succe ... rling.html

A low-emissivity, or “low-E,” ceiling, which uses a composite barrier of aluminum foil, fibreglass and fire-resistant material installed next to the existing ceiling. The barrier reduces the amount of heat radiating from the warm ceiling to the cold ice by 90 to 95%, and reduces the load on the ice-making system. Low-E ceilings also reduce condensation problems and improve lighting.

Lighting upgrades to convert from fluorescent T12s to more efficient technologies such as metal halide and dimming controllers. New lighting technologies can provide more light where it is needed with less energy, and also allow the manager to reduce lighting where it is not needed.

Looks like another failure on all fronts....but at least you have a nice large rink with humidity problems, little seating and poor, inefficient, old technology lighting. A true amenity that should cause people to flock to the City in droves.

For me, the big problem with all of the deficiencies and problems with the Multi-Plex is not that there are some major problems with the new buildings, but the overall sense of denial that there are any deficiencies to be found.
When there were leaks at the Fieldhouse there seemed to be a great sense of denial that the problem even existed at all despite the fact they had garbage pails around the track to collect the water.
Then we had one of the greatest classic ignorant statements made that 'all roofs leak'. Was it a misquote or out of context? Nope not at all.
Then when it comes to other issues such as the lighting problems at the rink portion of the Multi-Plex there are denials that a problem exists and that anyone who sees the problem well needs to have their eyes checked.
Now there is an admission finally that yes, there are lighting problems and we have the thrown in deficiencies of heat and humidity at the curling rink.
Are these deficiencies and problems major ones or just minor glitches?
It is the same thing with the disability accessibility issues. Do the buildings meet code? Yes they meet the bare minimum code, but as I pointed out at the time and made a telephone call about during the building phase that there are disability groups that for free would have come out and given suggestions to make things better and more inclusive.
Things such as the obvious back door exit that has a crosswalk there, painted, and no accessible sidewalk curb speaks volumes as to the accessibility deficiencies of the facility.
People can mock it, but when they were trying to convince the community to vote yes, they paraded out the wheelchair bound Warrior fans as a major reason to build a new rink.
Then despite the need to make a fully accessible facility they built it to bare code minimum only to later try to do some adjustments to make it well more accessible.
Were these oversites or just actually forgetting one of the reasons they used to sell these facilities to the voter?
Now there are the alleged problems with the main rinks beams being deficient and concerts unable to come here. Is it true?
It really does not matter, because the reaction and smirks it elicits from Scott Clark are classics that tell me really what the true attitude of the MOB is when it comes to this sort of stuff. It does not care what it is nor what it will cost to fix, there are no problems here so even if it costs tens of thousands to fix or there are deficiencies galore to mention them is to be scoffed at and mocked.

A good part of the reason for the "arrogant, I don't care and denial attitude" by Clark and some people on MOB is that they know they have a limitless source of funds to tap into - THE TAXPAYER!!! If this happened in the private sector "heads would roll", but all we here are the "accolades" for the wonder job done!!! All the taxpayer can do is wait for the election and LOL.

True "zephyrn" the building is here and it needs to be supported, but if we had some fiscally smart, responsible people at City Hall and in the MOB that would be more conscientious about how they spend our Tax Dollars I think the fiscal pain for taxpayers could be minimized. Combine that with some honesty and transparency toward the information provided to the taxpayer, in all areas of this mess, and many people would feel much better about the project; I know I would! The backroom wheeling and dealings, misinformation, secret meetings, with no public input has continually been a big issue with this "money pit" and it continues to follow the same course!! A change would be really nice and might eliminate or maybe minimize the ongoing distaste, by some, toward the project!